There's an irony between ISIS and Christianity. Muslims believe in end times also. According to their apocalyptic teaching they will have a messiah like leader who's referred to as Mahdi after the caliphate is established. Jesus will come down from heaven (!!!) and join the Mahdi in a fight against an antichrist figure. That will usher in an era of peace.
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Newspaper article: 'Rise of ISIS and earthquakes are WARNINGS before ARMAGEDDON destroys Earth'
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/581439/rise-isis-earthquakes-warnings-before-armageddon-apocalypse-end-destroys-volcanoes-earth.
the "end" of mankind, which has been long predicted by jehovah's witnesses, could happen as soon as this year - according to latest announcement from the christian religion.. in the latest edition of jehovah's witnesses monthly publication watchtower, an article translated into 700 languages - urges people to join the religion or face certain death when god sends his forces from the heavens to "remove all world leaders," "exterminate his enemies" and "rid the world of satan".. critics have lambasted the warning of a coming armageddon as yet another "failed prediction" by the religion, which has previously delivered similar alerts such as a foretold apocalypse in 1975.. indeed, jehovah's witnesses have been warning people of the need to recognise jehovah or face certain death when the "end" comes for more than 100 years.. the christian-based religion was founded in the 1870s by charles taze russell in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, us, as an offshoot from the bible studies movement.. today, there are 8.2million jehovah's witness evangelists, while 19.9 million celebrated their annual memorial festival marking christ's death - worldwide in 2014.. followers do not believe in military service and will not accept blood transfusions.. in a new eight-page article, watchtower said jehovah's witness leaders are now "convinced" humans are in their "final days" before the armageddon.. they cite an increase in global armed conflict, such as the rise of the islamic state terror group, as well as natural disasters such as volcanoes and earthquakes.. the lengthy article, written by an unnamed author, said: "will god let humans continue to dominate one another and threaten the future of mankind?
no, as we have seen, he will step in and bring an end to centuries of misery and oppression.
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Crises of conscience
by Deltawave ini have just read the book crises of conscience in less than 3days!
i could not put it down!
even in front of my jw wife and her family.
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Deltawave: "What is the next book? I thought the was only this one?!"
His other book is In Search of Christian Freedom.
I was already out when I read his two books. It merely confirmed what I had already suspected. I considered it despicable how he was disfellowshipped simply for having a meal with his employer/landlord who had merely disassociated himself. .
One thing I liked about the book was how even handed it was. No bitterness shown although I would have understood if there was. I even spoke to him once over the phone before he wrote the book and was impressed by his humility.
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If Women were elders, would it make a difference in the organization?
by John Aquila inimagine three single sisters who qualified to be appointed as elders in the congregation.
they qualified because they started reaching out in their early teens.
persistently and methodically they worked their way through the ranks by pioneering then becoming a m.s.
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34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. - 1 Corinthians 14:34-36 New International Version
3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. 6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head. - 1 Corinthians 11:3-6 New International Version
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Intelligent design my ass
by Doltologist inso man was made by god in his image was he?.
so the human body was intelligently designed was it?.
you are kidding me !!.
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Hold Me-Thrill Me:
"Disorder in the right place and circumstance can be extremely interesting. An unchanging universe would not be as exciting and interesting to the human mind as one which is both orderly and disorderly as the universe is."
It's not merely disorder but destructive disorder that kills life.
Doltologist:
HMTM
"Galaxies crashing into one another may be fine just as long as no life exists in any of them. If life does exist then that's just tough because god wants to see what happens when galaxies do collide."
Wouldn't God know what would happen without making a mess? He's supposed to be all knowing.
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The "Final Push" before the GT!!! I think they REALLY believe it!
by DATA-DOG ini don't know if i have shared this with everyone, but there seems to be a new theocratic term, at least in my circuit.. the term is "final push.
" wtf does it mean?
well, an eldub said that the gb are "all in" with warwick and they might spend all their money on the project.
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SimonSays, "Horatio what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive."
SimonSays, that quote is mistakenly attributed to Shakespeare:
http://www.shakespeare-online.com/faq/misquotesfaq.html
It was Walter Scott who made that statement in his book Marmion.
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How big of a problem is apostasy.
by joe134cd ini often wonder if apostasy could be defined as the "silent problem", as the majority who leave for this reason choose to fade saying nothing.
in all the decades i was a witness i could probably count on 2 hands those who were disfellowshipped for apostasy.i must admit it wasn't until i came on the internet that i fully realise the depth and extent of the problem.
i think of that young girl high school speech that went viral, and you can't tell me all those 300000+ views were all none jws.
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How big of a problem is Apostasy? There is a 1% per year disfellowshipping rate and the apostates that get df'd are most likely a small portion within that group. However, there is likely to be a relatively large number of still-in, underground apostates that never get discovered. They probably make up several percent. -
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How many of us stayed in the organization longer than necessary for these other reasons?
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Her legs are too skinny. I like them big boned like my high school JW crush from way back then. -
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Intelligent design my ass
by Doltologist inso man was made by god in his image was he?.
so the human body was intelligently designed was it?.
you are kidding me !!.
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The Universe shows order and disorder but not intelligence.
Why would an intelligent God create galaxies and then smash them together?
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Who Owns the Copyright to Crisis of Conscience?
by Hold Me-Thrill Me inrecently there was a thread where someone asked if there was a copy of crisis of conscience they could purchase.
raymond franz it seems had limited resources yet he was able to provide crisis of conscience in printed form to what?
thousands?
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Want to share your thoughts on JWs?
by punkofnice inwell, it's been a long while since i last visited here.
i've been doing this and that...you know....lugubrious life and all.. i am interested in collating views from all types of people about jws, albeit non jws, ex jws....anyone associated with jws who wants to share their viewpoint.
later on i'd like to self publish these collected interviews but cannot offer any money as the project is more about giving people an opportunity to speak, help, whatever, rather than make a best seller.
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Village Idiot
- Name/Pseudonym: Village Idiot
- Gender: Male
- Country: USA
- Were/are you a JW? Pick one.
Yes I was.
No longer.
Other (please state)
- How were/are you associated with JWs
Born in Thank goodness no.
Interested, Yes.
Studying
Unbaptised Baptized in 1974.
Joined from personal choice Yeap, that’s me.
Via friend/s
Other (Please state)
- How long were you a JW? (If applicable) 8 years.
- What drew you to the JWs?
All it took was a tract on the door. I was 13 and naïve and had an interest in religion. I thought I was discovering the secrets of the Universe.
- What do/did you enjoy about being a JW?
The so-called "knowledge" I was taking in. I remember devouring any book I could get my hands on new or old. I even remember the smell of those books.
- What is your best/fondest memory?
Picnics, playing volleyball, just socializing.
- What is your funniest memory?
I was in school and during recess I went to a room in the library where a sister that I had a crush on was having a study. As soon as I came in she said, “Oh I must put a head covering on” and she lifted her sweater up to her head as an improvised covering.
On another occasion I was out in field service with a sister (the one I had a crush on) on a very hot day. Someone had the sprinklers on and she, dressed in a skirt, walked right over it with a smile on her face.
My most interesting moment was when I and some others went out in field service in an isolated part of town. There was this dead goat hanging upside down from a tree with its throat slit. A little girl, about 5, was yanking the horns back and forth apparently bleeding the animal.
The sister besides me said she was going to throw up but never did. I tried to witness to the people there – they were Spanish speaking – but they kept saying they couldn’t understand even though I was speaking in Spanish. Good for them.
- If alive in 1975 as a JW, do you remember it? What are you memories as a JW?
Yes, definitely. I attended a special talk by Frederick Franz, who was then vice president of the society. It was at the Inglewood Public Forum in Los Angeles. The stadium was packed, may be 20,000 since there were chairs on the court. I remember having a tape recorder on my lap taping the talk. I wish I had that cassette now.
Franz gave a longwinded talk which started from creation all the way to the Millennium. In essence he said that the Great Tribulation would start either in 1975 or a few months or years thereafter but not decades.
That calculation centered around the “Adam and Eve gap", a period of time between the creation of Adam and Eve which could have been years or decades according to their chronological calculations (keep in mind the “creative days were 7,000 years long).
Franz then bizarrely stated that if the Adam and Eve gap were to be decades Adam would have been tempted into bestiality for lack of a mate. I remember him saying “Would Jehovah allow that? No, brothers and sisters.”
- Can you think of anything positive or good to say about the watchtower organisation?
Whatever small good they may have is completely tainted by their evil.
- Do you believe the JWs have the ‘truth’?
Yes 
No, absolutely not. Not even close. Partially* Other · * If ‘partially’, which ‘truth/s’ do the JWs have?
· (This is your platform to spill the beans. Go for it!)
- Would you recommend being a JW and why do you answer thus
Are you joking? I'd rather die than to live a living death. There is nothing that religion has to offer.
- Please tell us what you want us to know about being a JW.
Nothing but grief. If you're reading this and you're new to the Witnesses please, PLEASE run away as fast as you can!
